Most of us has heard about this before, personally I always dismissed it as stupid accusations and conspiracy theories by Nirvana fans in denial, that was before I really took the time to actually have a look at what they talk about, I watched the newly released "Soaked in bleach" documentary / dramatization of the case with real life recordings of Courtney Loves strange behaviours during the case, recorded secretly by the private investigator Courtney hired herself, I then proceeded to watch the 5 hour long amateur made documentary "KURT COBAIN: MURDERED" along with an initially BBC founded documentary "Who Killed Kurt Cobain" that was shut down after Courtney Loves legal team put pressure on the people in charge, the last 2 you can watch below, while soaked in bleach are available on netflix or on dvd at amazon, This is mind blowing I now have no doubt in my mind Kurt Cobain did not end his own life, and by the looks of things Cortney was the evil mastermind behind his murder ! tragic story! watch these and share your thoughts
do you really care? I mean hes been an ok composer, but there were more significant ones...as Rush Limbaugh said....Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman… a worthless shred of human debris.
I care somewhat cause he was turning against and showed his disgust with the capitalists of the record industry, he was not a musical genius, Personalty if I was to name late good metal composers they would be Valfar and Jon Nödtveidt
I have some trouble with the heavy drug abuse, its escapism, but respect that he ended it on his own terms. mentioning Nödtveidt, 1. yes, major talent 2. you seem to be fascinated with guy who shoot themselves... to name some living ones I would go with Varg, Snorre and Nocturno Culto (see Satyricon).
Ha ha not at all I said "if I was to name late (as in dead) good metal composers" ! killing yourself is weak in my eyes better go kill those who make your life shit ! but in Jon´s case it was a ritual self sacrifice according to his religious beliefs ! Kurt I´m convinced was murdered ! as for him being "a worthless shred of human debris." or not, I could not care less.. I think the case is interesting and shows you can clearly get away with murder if you got the cash and fame
I know what you meant, I just found it peculiar that you'd mention the dead ones, but none of the living. suicide by LaVey-istic ritual (I thing he went that way) is moronic, in general, suicide by religion I cannot see a point in. but even Seneca advocated for suicide. I agree, its a weakness and a dishonorable choice if you want to escape personal trouble or things you can change (debt, someone harassing you), but if you can´t change your situation (terminal illness, unbearable physical pain) its acceptable. incurable junkies offing themselves is in my opinion good riddance. and than there´s seppuku, which is rather honorable ... you don´t even need fame, cash is enough to get away with pretty much anything from dead hookers to getting rid of your spouse/partner/competitor. (survival of the fittest?) As for Cortney, shes an abominable person as is and an example of how idiots can make millions selling shit to other idiots...
What`s peculiar about that ? this thread is about a dead man in the first place ? and nowhere in the thread start did I praise Kurt as a musical genius ? If I was to name living musical geniuses I think we would loose track altogether in this thread , which has already happened more or less , I was not asking if he was a good person or musician ? I´m simply curious if others will come to the same conclusion as I after watching those documentary's mentioned
I wasn't inveighing against or dissing your opinion :) yeah, different topics entirely...I guess I wont be messing up your thread any further;)
no problem ;-) at least now there is some thread that's alive on this website, cheers
I, of course, like all of you, cannot be absolutely sure of what happened, but, if courtney didn't have a main part to play in his death, I believe she played an intrigued part in his suicide !!!!
to be honest i think he was killed. it's sad but his music sucks
he was a fairly good composer, average musician and a fairly good singer, poor personality though...i wouldnt go as far as saying he sucked, expendable is the term id go for:D
Yeah she had him killed that part where El Duce says she offered him 50 gran was no joke,I knew the man and I doubt he would lie about it and after that interview he died which is another mystery because he could hold his alcohol and we that knew him just couldn't believe it,I hope one day Courtney gets what she has coming to her,like they said in that one movie she had him killed because he was going to leave her and that's what I honestly think she had him killed to cash in on his fortune.